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186 Questions & Answers

186 Questions & Answers

Q: 80C186:CUSTOMER WANTS TO UPGRADE FROM A 80C186 TO AN
80C186XL, WHAT ARE THE CO-PROCESSORS COMPATABILITY?

A: There is a spec problem on input/out put voltage levels.
The parts do work together. AP-249 addresses these issues
Same is true with 186XL.

Q: 80C186XL:HOW TO CONVERST FROM THE 80C186 TO THE XL DESIGN

A: Faxback doc #2132 Addresses these issues. XL has better
immunity to noise and is on a faster 1 micron technology.
XL is a static core and #2132 has the AC and DC spec
differences, if any.

Q: 80C186XL-CAN YOU PROVIDE THE INDUCTOR/CAPACITOR VALUES FOR
THIRD OVERTONE CRYSTAL?

A:THE VALUES LISTED ON PAGE 24-631 ARE TOTALS FOR ALL STRAY
CAPACITANCE IN THE CIRCUIT. IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN A 30PF CAP
IS SPECIFIED, IT MEANS THAT THE TOTAL CAPACITANCE THAT PIN
SHOULD SEE, INCLUDING THE TRACES, THE LEAD FRAME, THE
PLATED THRU HOLE, THE WIDTH OF THE TRACE ETC. SHOULD EQUAL
30 PF. GIVE THE STRAY CAP. A VALUE OF ABOUT 3, MAKE THE CAP
ABOUT 27. THE SAME GOES FOR THE 3RD OVERTONE XTAL WITH THE
FILTER CIRCUIT. YOU CAN MOVE THE VALUES AROUND AS LONG AS
YOU MANTAIN THE SAME FILTER CHARACTERISTICS.

Q:80C186-16 - NEED TO KNOW REGARDING THE OSCILLATOR CLOCKIN
TIMING SPECS. WHY IS CLKIN RISE TIME SPEC 5NSEC SO TIGHT?
CAN WE USE OSC W/ 7NSEC RISE TIME?

A:MUST ADHERE TO THE 5NSEC SPEC- SEVERAL VENDORS MAKE
ACCEPTABLE CANNED OSCILLATORS- FOX, DALE, KRYSTEK AND
ARE NOT TO EXPENSIVE (<$5.00/10000 PU).

Q:80C186: IS THERE ANY TEST CODE THAT THE CUSTOMER CAN HAVE

A:No test code exists. Can find start up codes in Faxback
Doc# 3079, 3072. A bunch of various peripheral function
initialization and working example are available on BBS.
For an updated list of BBS Files check BBS CATALOG on FAXBACK.

Q:80C188: DMA CONTROLLER, WHAT IS THE MAX. TRANF. RATE? DOES
THE BANDWIDTH CHANGE FOR DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANF AND DOES
IT DO CYCLE STEALING.

A: Max transfer rate is 1/4*Fcpu=MBytes/sec for
unsynchronized transferes If it is destination
synchronized then the bandwidth reduces to
1/5*Fcpu=Mbytes/sec. C186 family of microcontrollers
do not provide the cycle stealing DMA feature in the
classical sense. The DMA or the CPU will have the full
control of the bus at any one time. However you can
have interleaved DMA transferes. Once DMA is initiated
it takes over the bus after 4 clock cycles, if the CPU
is not using the bus and is true for all modes of DMA
transfers.

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